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#1 Zachee

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 05:25

Wondering if any of you guys would be interested in regularly attempting raids? I want to start raiding with SoV so I'm gonna propose some times that may work for people.

Thursdays 7P.M. CST
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Sundays 4P.M. CST



I know it's late notice but I was hoping I could get 10 people together tonight to try the Stronghold of the Faithful wing of Forsaken Thicket. I can provide a PS warrior and have not attempted a single raid in GW2 before. So unless everyone else is very experienced I expect this to go very slowly.

An example of team comp can be found here. We will really need to find a couple druids and chronomancer tanks!

Here are some guides on the first couple parts of that run: escort & keep construct

I'll be logging on and trying to rally you guys in guild chat tonight!

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 06:47

I'd be game for something.  My real big issue with raids is simple: organization.  They take forever to organize and the time I spend sitting around could be put to better use doing something else.  But I'll give this a shot.

People would need to piece together meta gear sets, there's not really room for mickey mouse builds in raids.  Also need to keep in mind PoF drops in 2 weeks and the meta will be overhauled.  For that reason now might be the best time to do this as we may be able to cheese bosses by virtue of wonky balance.

I could in principle play any class given time to outfit them, but I'd be most comfortable going:
  • Healing druid, I have the toon and am comfortable on the class
  • Condi reaper, though there's currently no meta role for necro in raids and its only real niche use is vale guardian
  • DPS power thief
  • may be able to build out guardian

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:34

I tried to get into raiding...never found success

I can bring either a dps guardian or dps revenant

I guess I also have a healer druid, but I never play it.

Thursdays don't work for me at that time; that's the time I leave work.
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#4 FknEddie

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 15:29

I've got an ele that can roll minstrel or marauder/zerk. So I can fill out either DPS or support pretty well.
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 22:59

Can't use minstrel's in raids unless you're tanking.  The bosses aggro the person with the highest toughness.
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 07:20

I can do condi ranger or condi druid depending on need for DPS or support.

I also have a dps dragonhunter

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:05

View PostHesacon, on 08 September 2017 - 06:47, said:

I'd be game for something.  My real big issue with raids is simple: organization.  They take forever to organize and the time I spend sitting around could be put to better use doing something else.  But I'll give this a shot.

People would need to piece together meta gear sets, there's not really room for mickey mouse builds in raids.  Also need to keep in mind PoF drops in 2 weeks and the meta will be overhauled.  For that reason now might be the best time to do this as we may be able to cheese bosses by virtue of wonky balance.

To be honest, in this day and age, you can put together something pretty half-arsed and still make it past VG/Escort. You don't need to go too crazy with strategies if you think you're overextending yourselves - it's fine to kill blue and green on VG separately for example it just takes a few seconds longer and in Escort, you can take as much time as you need to ease the group up the path as long as everyone is careful about mines/you know what you're doing when the wargs spawn.

Gear is also less of a big thing than most people think. As long as you're pretty much right for most of the stats, e.g. magi Druid (you might have seen other builds out there, but they're not suitable for newer groups), viper condi, it doesn't matter hugely. Most of the static groups I've run with are happy for exo armour minimum if your trinkets (and preferably weapon(s)) are asc. The majority of it is just down to ensuring that the people in the key positions (e.g. tank) know what they're doing and everyone else is roughly on the same page as far as what they're doing/what to avoid. I've had it before where a group of 4 of us managed to pull a group of 6 first-timers through a VG kill because one of us was tanking and I was on Druid.

That's unfortunately why you also find a lot of groups that struggle with bosses like Sloth where everyone needs to know all of the mechanics and what to do about every indicator.

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 15:08

View PostRupert, on 14 September 2017 - 06:05, said:

View PostHesacon, on 08 September 2017 - 06:47, said:

I'd be game for something.  My real big issue with raids is simple: organization.  They take forever to organize and the time I spend sitting around could be put to better use doing something else.  But I'll give this a shot.

People would need to piece together meta gear sets, there's not really room for mickey mouse builds in raids.  Also need to keep in mind PoF drops in 2 weeks and the meta will be overhauled.  For that reason now might be the best time to do this as we may be able to cheese bosses by virtue of wonky balance.

To be honest, in this day and age, you can put together something pretty half-arsed and still make it past VG/Escort. You don't need to go too crazy with strategies if you think you're overextending yourselves - it's fine to kill blue and green on VG separately for example it just takes a few seconds longer and in Escort, you can take as much time as you need to ease the group up the path as long as everyone is careful about mines/you know what you're doing when the wargs spawn.

Gear is also less of a big thing than most people think. As long as you're pretty much right for most of the stats, e.g. magi Druid (you might have seen other builds out there, but they're not suitable for newer groups), viper condi, it doesn't matter hugely. Most of the static groups I've run with are happy for exo armour minimum if your trinkets (and preferably weapon(s)) are asc. The majority of it is just down to ensuring that the people in the key positions (e.g. tank) know what they're doing and everyone else is roughly on the same page as far as what they're doing/what to avoid. I've had it before where a group of 4 of us managed to pull a group of 6 first-timers through a VG kill because one of us was tanking and I was on Druid.

That's unfortunately why you also find a lot of groups that struggle with bosses like Sloth where everyone needs to know all of the mechanics and what to do about every indicator.

I've ran training groups for VG and you'd be surprised how much trouble people have with the boss. I've only gotten 1 clear with training group out of 10.

In another note, raids are really easy once you've learned them. If there is enough interest within the guild I'd be fine with running with them

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#9 Rupert

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Posted 19 September 2017 - 04:41

I tend to find it's not so bad if you can dumb it down to the most important things for new people (i.e. dodge/step out of blue and if you're on greens then that's your #1 priority - not VG).

In fairness for pure pug training groups (particularly VG), it's not just that it's a mix of ability, it's that a lot of those of people won't even be using the right stats for the encounter.




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